Core Inconsistency
Joseph Vidal-Rosset
joseph at vidal-rosset.net
Thu Jan 21 06:05:19 EST 2021
Sorry. The reply is no. I wanted just to test my comment engine. The page is deleted again.
Thanks !
Best wishes,
Jo.
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Le jeudi 21 janvier 2021 11:59, Lukasz T. Stepien <sfstepie at cyf-kr.edu.pl> a écrit :
> Dear Prof. Vidal-Rosset
>
> As I have seen, you had deleted (on Saturday or on Sunday) the subpage on your blog: https://www.vidal-rosset.net/core_inconsistency.html , but yesterday you brought back this subpage. So, I have a question, whether you have updated your proof of inconsistency of Core Logic ?
>
> Best regards
>
> Lukasz T. Stepien
>
> On 2021-01-16 02:54:27, Joseph Vidal-Rosset wrote:
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> Le sam. 01/16/21 janv. 2021 à 02:54:27 , "Tennant, Neil"
> <
> [tennant.9 at osu.edu](https://cs.nyu.edu/mailman/listinfo/fom)
>> a envoyé ce message:
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> Jo,
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> You have claimed now that
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> "in your system [of Core Logic] you cannot show in one proof that
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> (3) ~A -> (A -> B), ~ A, A |- B
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> is provable and that
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> (2) ~A -> (A -> B)
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> is a theorem."
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> My response is: So what?!
>
> Dear Neil, fair enough, but what I claim is always the same point: the
> *occurrence* of Core theorem (2) i.e. (~A -> (A -> B)) in the proof of
> sequent (3) is unprovable in Core logic.
>
> So what?
>
> First, I believe that this idiosyncrasy of Core logic is in
> contradiction with the usual definition of what is a theorem in natural
> deduction which is not based, as far as I know, on the definition of
> normal proof. But of course, "In logic, there are no morals", to quote
> the famous Carnap's word, and you are free to define your rules and to
> give your own definition of what is a Core theorem.
>
> Nevertheless, and it is my second and last point, it seems to me that the
> composition of proofs and their normalization when these proofs are not
> normal is a basic property of natural deduction and of mathematical
> logic in general. The Core logician can prefer breaks this composition
> property, but I am quite convinced that many other logicians, like
> Bartleby the Scrivener, would prefer not to.
>
> All the best,
> Jo.
>
> PS: Because, I admit after discussion that it can be considered as a
> fallacy to call about an "inconsistency" about Core logic, I am going to
> delete this note on my blog, as I promised, and I will try maybe to
> write another text that even you, the Pope of Core logic, will not
> contest. It was yesterday the World Logic Day and I believed that it was
> finally also the Core Logic Death... I was wrong. (Sorry, I was too
> proud to make this bad pun in a language that is not my native
> language! I was only joking.)"
>
> --
>
> Lukasz T. Stepien
>
> The Pedagogical University of Cracow
> Institute of Computer Science,
> ul. Podchorazych 2
> 30-084 Krakow
> Poland
>
> tel. +48 12 662-78-54, +48 12 662-78-44
>
> The URL
> http://www.ltstepien.up.krakow.pl
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