[FOM] Potential and Actual Infinity

Joseph Shipman joeshipman at aol.com
Sat Mar 14 18:09:06 EDT 2015

To define epsilon-zero, no infinity is necessary, but try proving as rigorously as you can that it is in fact well-ordered! Specify clearly the axiomatic system in which you expect to be able to prove this.

-- JS

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> On Mar 13, 2015, at 8:14 PM, sambin at math.unipd.it wrote:
> Quoting "Timothy Y. Chow" <tchow at alum.mit.edu>:
>> Arnon Avron also claimed that potential infinity was all that was needed to prove the consistency of PA, but unless I missed something, has not responded to my request for a more formal justification of this claim.
>> Tim
> Gerhard Gentzen in the 30s proved that PA is consistent using induction up to the famous ordinal epsilon-zero. To define such an ordinal, no actual infinity is necessary.
> Giovanni Sambin
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