# [FOM] Leibnizian principles

S. S. Kutateladze sskut at math.nsc.ru
Fri Nov 14 22:38:42 EST 2014

```Foundations of Mathematics    wrote :

A points position on a line is an essential property of a point despite it being relational, hence it must be counted a property.
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From: fom-bounces at cs.nyu.edu [mailto:fom-bounces at cs.nyu.edu] On Behalf Of F.A. Muller
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:39:33 +1300
> From: W.Taylor at math.canterbury.ac.nz
> To: W.Taylor at math.canterbury.ac.nz

> If one doesn't wish to go to a hierarchy of predicate variables, and
> is prepared (largely ignoring 1st/2nd-order distinctions) to treat
> objects and properties on the same footing, then Leibnitz' law has an
> interesting "dual" form, which might be useful.

> IDENTITY OF INDISCERNABLES:    (Leibnitz)

> [all x,y]  x = y  <=>  [all P] Px <=> Py

If true, a line has only one point, because all points share their properties.

> IDENTITY OF INDISCRIMINABLES:      (dual)

> [all P,Q]  P = Q  <=>  [all x] Px <=> Qx

If true, "having a unique successor" is identical to "having a unique prime decomposition" (when x is a natural number variable).

--> F.A. Muller

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