David Deutsch's claim about "mathematicians' misconception"
Timothy Y. Chow
tchow at math.princeton.edu
Wed Nov 18 14:28:20 EST 2020
Jose Manuel Rodriguez Caballero wrote:
> Reading [1], I found the following claim, due to David Deutsch, about the
> relevance of the laws of physics in foundations of mathematics:
>
>> there was a widespread assumption -- which I shall call the
>> mathematicians' misconception -- that what the rules of logical
>> inference are, and hence what constitutes a proof, are a priori logical
>> issues, independent of the laws of physics.
[...]
> What could be the status of what David Deutsch calls the
> "mathematicians' misconception" in the framework of foundations of
> mathematics? Could be in the same category as Platonism, Formalism, and
> Intuitionism?
Very interesting...thanks for mentioning this.
The following link might work better:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1210.7439.pdf
To quote a little bit more:
The theory of computation was originally intended only as a
mathematical technique of studying proof (Turing 1936), not a branch of
physics. Then, as now, there was a widespread assumption---which I
shall call the mathematicians' misconception---that what the rules of
logical inference are, and hence what constitutes a proof, are a priori
logical issues, independent of the laws of physics. This is analogous
to Kant's (1781) misconception that he knew with certainty what the
geometry of space is. In fact proof and computation are, like
geometry, attributes of the physical world. Different laws of physics
would in general make different mathematical assertions provable. (Of
course that would make no difference to which mathematical assertions
are *true*.) They could also make different physical states and
transformations simple---which determines which computational tasks are
tractable, and hence which logical truths can serve as rules of
inference and which can only be understood as theorems.
I don't feel like dissecting Deutsch's view in detail here---I have voiced
objections to similar ideas in the context of discussions of
hypercomputation [*]---but will just say that the misconceptions seem to
me to be on Deutsch's part and not on the mathematicians' part. If we
want to attach an "ism" then I would attach it not to the "mathematicians'
misconception" itself, but rather to Deutsch's own misconceptions; I'd
propose the term "Deutschism" since I don't think his views on this point
are widely shared.
[*] See for example https://cstheory.stackexchange.com/a/4838 and
https://cs.nyu.edu/pipermail/fom/2004-February/007932.html
Tim
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