[FOM] 840: New Tangible Incompleteness/3
Harvey Friedman
hmflogic at gmail.com
Tue Jan 14 16:50:10 EST 2020
Breakthru expositionally in the HUGE cardinal level. Don't
underestimate the power of such improvements.
This also leads to the real possibility of a DECISION PROCEDURE making
the HUGE cardinal stuff very THEMATIC.
So again we are in the realm of Chapter 3 of the book, on SET EQUATIONS.
SO WE START OVER SUPERSEDING 839,
https://cs.nyu.edu/pipermail/fom/2020-January/021886.html
DEFINITION 1. Let S containedin Q^k. S# is the least A^k containing S
and (0,...,0). S^<= = {x in S: x_1 <= ... <= x_k}. S^>= = {x in S: x_1
>= ... >= x_k}. S is upper
unbounded if and only if there are arbitrary large rationals appearing
a coordinates of elements of S. Let R containedin Q^2k. R<[S] = {y in
Q^: there exists x in S such that max(x) < max(y) and x R y}.
DEFINITION 2. The upper shift of x in Q^k results from adding 1 to all
nonnegative coordinates of x. We write ush(x). The upper shift of S
containedin Q^k is {ush(x): x in S}. We write ush(S).
DEFINITION 3. B containedin Q^k is order theoretic in S containedin
Q^k if and only if B is some {x in S: phi(x)}, where phi is a
quantifier free formula over (Q,<) with parameters allowed.
The most basic set equation that we consider is
S = S#\R<[S]
where S is the unknown subset of Q^k and R containedin Q^2k.
PROPOSITION A. Every order invariant R containedin Q^2k has an S =
S#\R<[S] containing ush(S).
THEOREM 1. Proposition A is provably equivalent to Con(SRP) over
WKL_0. The implication to Con(SRP) is provable in RCA_0,
PROPOSITION B. Every order invariant R containedin Q^2k has an S =
S^>= U (S#^<=\R<[S]) where upper shifts of upper bounded order
theoretic subsets are order theoretic subsets.
THEOREM 2. Proposition B is provably equivalent to Con(HUGE) over
WKL_0. The implication to Con(HUGE) is provable in RCA_0.
It can be shown that Propositions A,B are implicitly Pi01 via the
Goedel Completeness Theorem. This a priori argument is not as
straightforward as it was for Embedded Maximality (part 2 of book),
and uses nonstandard models.
Here HUGE = ZFC + {there exists j:V(lambda) into V(mu) such that
j^k(kappa) < lambda}_k. Here kappa is the critical point of j.
Now we readily see the following general Template.
TEMPLATE. Every order invariant R containedin Q^2k has an S = Gamma(S)
where upper shifts of upper bounded order theoretic subsets are order
theoretic subsets.
Here Gamma is a simple set theoretic expression in S. The one we use
for Proposition B is a Boolean combination of
S^<=, S^>=, S#^<=, R<[S].
STEP 1. Use any Boolean combination of these four in Proposition B and
analyze what you get.
STEP 2. Expand on that list to make it more natural but of the same
style. Aim for this:
S, S#, S#^<, S#^>, S#^<=, S#^>=
R[X], R<[X], R<=[X], R>[X], R>=[X], where X is a Boolean combination
from the first line.
We will always get implicitly Pi01 sentences.
CONJECTURE. We get only consistency statements for some familiar
systems at or below HUGE.
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This is the 840th in a series of self contained numbered
postings to FOM covering a wide range of topics in f.o.m. The list of
previous numbered postings #1-799 can be found at
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800: Beyond Perfectly Natural/6 4/3/18 8:37PM
801: Big Foundational Issues/1 4/4/18 12:15AM
802: Systematic f.o.m./1 4/4/18 1:06AM
803: Perfectly Natural/7 4/11/18 1:02AM
804: Beyond Perfectly Natural/8 4/12/18 11:23PM
805: Beyond Perfectly Natural/9 4/20/18 10:47PM
806: Beyond Perfectly Natural/10 4/22/18 9:06PM
807: Beyond Perfectly Natural/11 4/29/18 9:19PM
808: Big Foundational Issues/2 5/1/18 12:24AM
809: Goedel's Second Reworked/1 5/20/18 3:47PM
810: Goedel's Second Reworked/2 5/23/18 10:59AM
811: Big Foundational Issues/3 5/23/18 10:06PM
812: Goedel's Second Reworked/3 5/24/18 9:57AM
813: Beyond Perfectly Natural/12 05/29/18 6:22AM
814: Beyond Perfectly Natural/13 6/3/18 2:05PM
815: Beyond Perfectly Natural/14 6/5/18 9:41PM
816: Beyond Perfectly Natural/15 6/8/18 1:20AM
817: Beyond Perfectly Natural/16 Jun 13 01:08:40
818: Beyond Perfectly Natural/17 6/13/18 4:16PM
819: Sugared ZFC Formalization/1 6/13/18 6:42PM
820: Sugared ZFC Formalization/2 6/14/18 6:45PM
821: Beyond Perfectly Natural/18 6/17/18 1:11AM
822: Tangible Incompleteness/1 7/14/18 10:56PM
823: Tangible Incompleteness/2 7/17/18 10:54PM
824: Tangible Incompleteness/3 7/18/18 11:13PM
825: Tangible Incompleteness/4 7/20/18 12:37AM
826: Tangible Incompleteness/5 7/26/18 11:37PM
827: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/1 9/23/19 11:19PM
828: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/2 9/23/19 11:19PM
829: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/3 9/23/19 11:20PM
830: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/4 9/26/19 1:17 PM
831: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/5 9/29/19 2:54AM
832: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/6 10/2/19 1:15PM
833: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/7 10/5/19 2:34PM
834: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/8 10/10/19 5:02PM
835: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/9 10/13/19 4:50AM
836: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/10 10/14/19 12:34PM
837: Tangible Incompleteness Restarted/11 10/18/20 02:58AM
838: New Tangible Incompleteness/1 1/11/20 1:04PM
839: New Tangible Incompleteness/2 1/13/20 1:10 PM
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