[FOM] 785: Revolutionary Possibilities/4

Harvey Friedman hmflogic at gmail.com
Mon Jan 22 00:38:10 EST 2018


Let's review my previously favorite that is proved using 1-Con(PA).
https://cs.nyu.edu/pipermail/fom/2018-January/020824.html

THEOREM 1. For all k >= 1 there exists n >= 1 whose k maximal factors
have increasing (<=) quesidues.

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We now want to use a different kind of quadratic residue.

DEFINITION. The upper quesidue is the residue of n^2 mod the least
prime greater than |n|. The lower quesidue is the residue of n^2 mod
the least prime greater than some >1 factor of n. The quesidue of
-1,0,1 is undefined.

The quesidues in
https://cs.nyu.edu/pipermail/fom/2018-January/020824.html are now
called the UPPER quesidues.

We now want to work with lower quesidues.

MY CURRENT FAVORITE AT THE PA LEVEL
BASED ON LOWER QUESIDUES

THEOREM 1. For all positive k there exists positive n whose at least k
positive factors have a total of at most (logk)(1+logk)/2 lower
quesidues.

Here c(x) is the ceiling of x.

We prove Theorem 1 using more than PA, in fact we use 1-Con(PA).

Theorem 1 rests on only a basic obvious property of quesidues:

THEOREM 2. Let f:Z+ into Z+ take on only finitely many values at the
positive multiples of any given t. For all positive k there exists
positive n such that f assumes at most (logk)(1+logk)/2 values at the
at least k factors of n greater than 1.

NOTE: You can use r-th power residues instead of quadratic residues
here, in case this isn't "hard" enough.

So the philosophy of Theorem 1 is that

1. We know it holds because it holds of any suitable f (Theorem 2).
2.  The particular f in Theorem 1 is apparently "number theoretically
random" in the informal sense that number theorists use.
3. If, as does happen, the number theorists do manage to prove some
basic statistical facts about the lower quesidue function then that is
not going to be suitably relevant to prove Theorem 1.
4. Consequently no such exact information is going to be rigorously
proved by current number theorists.

The weak part of this line of reasoning is of course 4. So this raises
a question I have never investigated. What kind of Ramsey theory gets
incomparably easier - logically and in the sense of upper bounds - if
we assume that the data is random? Would this apply to this kind of
unusually strong Ramsey theory associated with PA? And what are the
prospects are really proving suitable randomness of the lower
quesidue?

On another note, it does seem somewhat intricate to give a proper
formulation of Theorem 2 (of course Theorem 1 by specialization) with
"k factors" instead of "at most k factors". This seems well worth
doing, assuming this lower quesidue approach has legs. Also even
keeping "at most k factors" but raising the (1+logk)(2+logk)/2 is very
interesting, calibrating the strengths.

So this seems to be improving nicely at the PA level, looking less
like a slavish translation of combinatorics. People will probably be
interested in running statistical tests on upper and lower quesidues.
I wonder how close the number theory literature is to such notions?

Of course, it very much remains to be seen just what I come up with
that uses large cardinals.

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Harvey Friedman


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