[FOM] New Umbrella?/big picture
W.Taylor at math.canterbury.ac.nz
W.Taylor at math.canterbury.ac.nz
Tue Nov 11 00:39:33 EST 2014
Sorry for the mistakes!! - b
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Quoting Mitchell Spector <spector at alum.mit.edu>:
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Let's continue in this vein, carrying the line of reasoning to its
natural conclusion. If understanding the type-0 objects requires type-1
relations as a separate sort, it would seem that understanding the
type-1 relations would require a third sort, that of type-2 relations
(predicates on the collection of type-1 relations, rather than
predicates on objects). Leibniz' principle would then suggest that
there are so many type-2 relations that, given any two distinct type-1
relations, there's a type-2 relation that distinguishes between those
two type-1 relations.
Just a simple-minded note here, to bring to attention a sig-line
I used to see on the newsgroups, that seems slightly relevant.
If one doesn't wish to go to a hierarchy of predicate variables,
and is prepared (largely ignoring 1st/2nd-order distinctions)
to treat objects and properties on the same footing, then
Leibnitz' law has an interesting "dual" form, which might be useful.
IDENTITY OF INDISCERNABLES: (Leibnitz)
[all x,y] x = y <=> [all P] Px <=> Py
IDENTITY OF INDISCRIMINABLES: (dual)
[all P,Q] P = Q <=> [all x] Px <=> Qx
i.e. if no property distinguishes two objects, they are the same;
and if no object discriminates two properties, they are the same.
-- Bill Taylor
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