[FOM] Feasible and Utterable Numbers
Charles Silver
silver_1 at mindspring.com
Mon Aug 7 11:22:07 EDT 2006
On Aug 5, 2006, at 4:45 PM, V.Sazonov at csc.liv.ac.uk wrote:
> "Natural" is good (and can be subjective and depending on time), but I
> consider that the main criterion for any idea to be mathematical is
> "adequately formalisable".
>
> For me the question is: can we ever treat feasibility in a
> mathematically rigorous way or it is non-formalisable at all and
> nothing except useless speculations is possible? The answer is: it is
> formalisable, but somewhat unusually. The formalisation could/
> should be
> probably improved to be more natural. Anyway, it is better to have
> some
> (adequate) formalisation than nothing at all.
I believe I understood your various distinctions, and of course I
know the difference between modifying the logical versus the non-
logical features of your theory. Since there are many unusual
characteristics and variants, I am led to an extremely primitive
question: What makes your theory a theory of some "concept"? This
relates to the question of "naturalness". For example, I could
make up some non-logical axioms and declare that certain inference
rules are off limits, but that would not make the resultant theory a
theory of anything. So, could you please explain--I know this is a
decidedly primitive question--why "feasibility" is a real concept,
and also why it seems to resist formalization?
Also, according to my intuitions (which may be bad), it seems to me
that a feasible number should not have a sharp cut-off. That is, I
think there should be numbers in between those accepted by most
people as feasible and much larger numbers considered non-feasible,
with a lot of numbers in between. Call these numbers the Betweens.
But then, the question would arise why the largest number in the
Betweens is not really non-feasible, and why the least number in the
Betweens should not be considered feasible.
(Incidentally, I am not trying to suggest that "fuzzy logic" or
"fuzzy set theory" or fuzzy anything should be employed.)
Charlie Silver
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